Tobacco Appreciation?

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Tobacco Appreciation?; Is it really necessary?
Topic Started: 15 Oct 2007, 12:08 AM (446 Views)
That dude	15 Oct 2007, 12:08 AM Post #1
50000+ Member Posts: 127 Group: Members Member #31 Joined: 15 October 2006	Hey, I want to start off by saying that I have nothin against smokers since my dad is a heavy one (2 large packs a day sort of guy). I just feel that this "Tobacco Appreciation" sub-forum is a little much. (don't you think?) After all, this is a audio based forum. Moreover, is promoting smoking such a good idea? Let's think of all the underaged head-fiers (me included) may get the idea that audio+smoking = Cool. I don't mind if the topics are posted in the general discussion sub forum but an entire sub-forum dedicated to tobacco addiction is just not right. Maybe you could make a some sticky threads in the general discussion sub forum? I don't want to come on too strong, this is just a suggestion. Anyway, just think about it.
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zonalblitz	15 Oct 2007, 12:32 AM Post #2
Site Photographer Posts: 1,193 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: 15 October 2006	Hi That dude, Just in case you didn't realize, our Global Moderator, Ryner has put up a disclaimer about the purpose of the forum. Quote: If you guy's haven't already noticed, we recently opened a new sub-forum. Yup, this sub-forum is all about the appreciation of tobacco. We are not trying to encourage smoking here but I guess you can say that we are always trying to have fun in life thus the opening of this sub-forum. We are sure that there are at least a couple of existing smokers here so do contribute your thoughts on whats hot and whats not. Do note that this sub-forum is a "Trial" forum hence it might be removed at any given time without any due warning. In any case, Cigar smoking is also a fine art. We have decided to introduce the Tobacco Appreciation (Trial) into HeadphoneHaven for the connoisseurs who pick cigar smoking or any other tobacco related as a hobby. Up to date, we have the Food Appreciation, Photography Appreciation threads. In fact, we have also thought of introducing Liquor & Fine Wine Appreciation thread. As stated in the sub-forum, it is on trial and closely monitored by our Administrator and Moderating Team. We are unable to set an age limit for people viewing this forum. In reality, websites that put up disclaimer of age limit are not effectively barring the minority passing through. However, if you're disturbed by the content in the sub-forum, please kindly refrain from visiting. Lastly, we will put your suggestion into consideration with the prospects of the sub-forum. We understand you meant well. Thank You! Global Moderator zonalblitz
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Ryner	15 Oct 2007, 01:20 AM Post #3
Music Lover Posts: 799 Group: Global Moderator Member #59 Joined: 18 October 2006	Hello That_dude, It seems that zonalblitz has explained most parts of the situation to you already. Well to add on, if you noticed, we do not advocate people to actually pick up smoking. Like with the food and photography sub-forums, people who read those sub-forums do not have to rush out to buy a new camera or get some fried kway teow with lard. It really boils down to the readers choice, it's your choice whether or not to read a certain thread or sub-forum. It is also a person's choice, whether or not to pick up smoking and I would really hope that the readers in our forum are mature enough to be responsible for their own actions. Do not blame the sub-forum if you do pick up smoking. I mean come on, you just have to step out into the world and you will enter a world of smoke literally. I came from a "Gangster" seconday school in the west and I did not succumb to peer pressure. At least 15 of my class mates were smokers but most of them respected my decision to abstain from smoking. In fact, I have not touched a single stick of cigarette till today, I started cigars just recently because it is a totally different thing, you do not inhale the smoke and the taste of a cigar is simply fantastic. It was my choice to pick up cigar smoking and I will not blame anyone for it. Period. Cheers mates.
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ahdui	15 Oct 2007, 01:36 AM Post #4
aux! Posts: 5,256 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: 15 October 2006	Just to voice out my personal experience... I work in an environment where 99% of my colleagues are smoking.(it's obvious I'm the 1%) I do have plenty of friends who smokes cigarettes and also Ryner and etc who smokes cigar. But I did not join them nor did they ask me to join them. I have my own mindset of not smoking and I didn't go against my principles even until this very moment. So, it boils down to the individual who decides whether to start the habit or not.
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That dude	15 Oct 2007, 08:16 PM Post #5
50000+ Member Posts: 127 Group: Members Member #31 Joined: 15 October 2006	Hi guys thanks for clearing things up for me slightly. However, I still feel that it would be much better if the forum is made into a thread in the general discussion area. Firstly, it has almost nothing to do with audio. As far as i know, most audiophiles would even try to not get smoke on their gear. Secondly, I know that people should make their own decisions themselves and you have already mentioned in your disclaimer that you are not promoting smoking. However, not everyone can tell right from left let alone right from wrong, and most people, like myself, would just skip the disclaimer thread. With regards to the other "unrelated" sub-forums, they are sort of related aren't they? Isn't taking photos of your rig "photography'? Or enjoying wine or food while listening to add to your general listening experience "food appreciation"? All I'm saying is that I think that it is neither needed nor a good influence. That said however, if I am the only one rambling about this then it's fine and I'm sorry. This is not a debate, it's just a suggestion. I'm just trying to make my case.
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zonalblitz	15 Oct 2007, 09:00 PM Post #6
Site Photographer Posts: 1,193 Group: Members Member #4 Joined: 15 October 2006	Hi That dude, Photography does not mean taking photographs of your own rig. The 'Appreciation' sub-forums has no direct relevance to the audio, therefore deemed 'Miscellaneous'. Quote: However, not everyone can tell right from left let alone right from wrong, and most people, like myself, would just skip the disclaimer thread. In today's world, people are intelligent enough to understand how they want to move their cursors. Cigar smoking is not a right/wrong matter, you must try to understand this point. However, like I have previously mentioned, if you are easily influenced or disturbed by the content, please refrain from visiting the sub-forum. Furthermore, the tobacco thread for set-up for cigars. This conduct is nothing illegal. Tobacco has got nothing to do with drugs. Thank you, you have made your case. Point is taken and I see no point of furthering this debate with the Moderating Team. Therefore I shall lock the thread. However, if you wish to further-up your case, please do so via PM. Please give wise thoughts before making your point. Global Moderator zonalblitz
	If impressing/being impressed is how it gets you around, forget it. It is not gonna happen. The world of audiophile and fine living is not an Olympics. Team "> Two Thousand Dollars Only" per Portable Audio Rig


ahdui	20 Oct 2007, 10:02 PM Post #7
aux! Posts: 5,256 Group: Administrator Member #1 Joined: 15 October 2006	Anyway, The Sub-forum has been closed. The reason for closing it down is a lack of activities and contributions inside. Do note that narrow-minded complaints didn't work for the closing of the sub-forum. **edited for typo.
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